A Little Clarity

I see comments about how DS doesn’t stack with any other raid buff thrown around a lot, here most recently.  I want to clarify a small point.

Improved Divine Spirit doesn’t stack with any other spellpower increasing buff.

Non-Improved Divine Spirit is the best Spirit buff in game.

The moral of the story?  Blizz basically made Imp DS a talent that is only reasonable to take for soloing or 5-mans without certian classes.  It is no longer a raid talent unless you run regularly with a very strange raid make up.  However, take the 2 points out of Imp DS and put them somewhere else, all of your Priests, Druids, and Warlocks have the best Spirit buff in game. 

If I understand the mechanics correctly, even if you have the Imp DS buff the Spirit part of it remains active even if the spellpower part is overwritten… but why waste the 2 points? 

In conclusion:  Please don’t take away my Disc Priest justs because you don’t think I need a Spirit buff.

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2 Comments on “A Little Clarity”

  1. regard Says:

    The issues I was attempting to wrestle with were perhaps too large for the scope of that post; hopefully I can try to clarify a few points.

    Blizzard wants to fundamentally change the way players group with raids/classes. They have directly stated this in the past, which is where the “bring the player, not the class” quote comes from. This can be seen in-game with the changes of most “party” buffs to “raid” buffs, and the removal of non-stacking abilities (in this case, imp spirit and shaman totems). The idea is that you can get the same benefits from multiple classes, and each class will be more or less interchangeable from a raid setup standpoint.

    The problem as I see it, is that all classes are not currently interchangeable enough to make this dream a reality. Why bring any other raid healer, when Shaman still have a nerf-free chain heal? Again, in the specific case of disc priests, it’s hard to argue that they bring something unique enough to the table that makes them at least equal to some of the other options out there.

    Personally, I think that this situation is going to get to the point where all healing specs become equally nerfed, at which point one is left to wonder where Blizzard put all the fun. There are rumors that they’ve been looking at overhauling the whole healing system as soon as 3.1. While that may just be disenchanted healer misinformation, that thought terrifies me.

  2. Galadria Says:

    Actually, I do understand where you are comming from. I feel the same issues as a SPriest.

    My tirade about ImpDS vs. DS is more directed to non-priest Raid Leaders who don’t understand the mechanic, you just hapened to be the most recent blog to mention it. The tooltip for DS has never reflected the Spi to SP part and in BC it took me forever to get people to understand it’s value. Now that people get it, Blizz went and changed it and yet again, most people don’t get it. Heck, I even had to point out to our raid’s Disc Priest that he didn’t need to “Improve” his DS buff, he could put those 2 points elsewhere!

    I competly understand where you are comming from. The SPriest’s mana regen has now been given to 2 other classes and our raid damage has still not been compensated enough. There’s plenty of reason to bring another Pally now that Ret damage can keep up, Survival Hunters are going to be raid viable from what I hear, and your Holy Priest can bring Fort. So why bring lackluster DPS when you could get another Lock and another Soul Stone?


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